Anyone own a hopkins & allen kentucky flintlock pistol?

Just_Matt

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I came across a Hopkins & Allen Kentucky flintlock pistol and it really caught my eye. I know they're reproductions, but they've got that old-school frontier feel that's hard to beat, does anyone here owns one? are they worth picking up for the collection?
 
Of consideration to me, if I was a buyer, would be - who built it (assessing the quality of the components and overall build) ... and if it was used, what is the bore condition (I use a digital bore scope to verify), what is the lock condition, how well does the lock function (i.e. - with a new flint in the cock jaws, how well does the hammer steel [frizzen] spark, does the lock sit well in half and full cock, how well does the sear/trigger pull function), what is the overall condition of the stock and the entirety of the gun's build.

Beware of poorly built and maintained black powder firearms (typically most that are built offshore in Spain and Italy), and realize that flint locks absolutely require real black powder for pan ignition.
 
Thanks for the advice, I'll check who built it, bore and lock condition, hammer/frizzen function, and stock quality. Do you have any tips for spotting well-built flintlocks before buying?
 
I've seen a few of those Hopkins & Allen reproductions, they've got that classic frontier feel for sure and perfect for a collection if you like historic pieces. Are you thinking display or occasional shooting?
 
Thanks for the advice, I'll check who built it, bore and lock condition, hammer/frizzen function, and stock quality. Do you have any tips for spotting well-built flintlocks before buying?
Without a hands-on critique using data points I've listed, yer buying blind, particularly if the weapon was offshore built and mail ordered. I've owned and worked on many dozens of flintlock firearms within the span of six decades. If I had to pick one key flintlock gun component it'd be the lock, it's that critical. Any quality USA lock (Chambers, Kibler, L&R, and many more) will hands-down be "best", or at least "made best". L&R offers quality lock replacements for a good many of the offshore flint and percussion guns, and I've used many of their flint locks on both Italian and Spanish firearms.

I recently bought and completed a Pedersoli 2nd Land Pattern Brown Bess kit. The lock tested very good, and that was a pleasant surprise (I've had some marginal locks from them in the past). I used that gun in a recent Rev War reenactment and it worked flawlessly with good sparks on every firing (blanks of course). I got lucky with that lock. Yay me.

From my perspective, the MOST IMPORTANT thing to be aware of with any and all black powder firearms (muzzleloader or cartridge - and I do lots of both) is KEEP THE FIRED POWDER RESIDUE SOFT as soon as possible. I could write an essay on this topic but it all boils down to that one concept. This applies to bbls, touch hole liners, locks ... also bbls and brass for the cartridge guns.

Anything and everything that's screwed into a black powder firearm's bbl will make those screw threads seem like they're welded after a number of firings, and will be impossible to remove (breech plugs, touch hole vents, snails, bolsters, blow out vents, nipples, etc) unless the bbl is steamed. Therefore I remove at least the breech plug, for a coat of anti-seize grease.

Most folks don't understand black powder firearm maintenance and waste way too much time "cleaning" and wasting money on all manner of "cleaning" concoctions. As long as fired gun BP residue is timely administered, I can clean ANY black powder bbl in less that 15 minutes, typically 5 minutes and with 3 to 6 patches. All that's needed is tepid tap water and some water soluble oil (i.e. - Ballistol, etc). It's not rocket science, it's 18th century practice. :)
 
Without a hands-on critique using data points I've listed, yer buying blind, particularly if the weapon was offshore built and mail ordered. I've owned and worked on many dozens of flintlock firearms within the span of six decades. If I had to pick one key flintlock gun component it'd be the lock, it's that critical. Any quality USA lock (Chambers, Kibler, L&R, and many more) will hands-down be "best", or at least "made best". L&R offers quality lock replacements for a good many of the offshore flint and percussion guns, and I've used many of their flint locks on both Italian and Spanish firearms.

I recently bought and completed a Pedersoli 2nd Land Pattern Brown Bess kit. The lock tested very good, and that was a pleasant surprise (I've had some marginal locks from them in the past). I used that gun in a recent Rev War reenactment and it worked flawlessly with good sparks on every firing (blanks of course). I got lucky with that lock. Yay me.

From my perspective, the MOST IMPORTANT thing to be aware of with any and all black powder firearms (muzzleloader or cartridge - and I do lots of both) is KEEP THE FIRED POWDER RESIDUE SOFT as soon as possible. I could write an essay on this topic but it all boils down to that one concept. This applies to bbls, touch hole liners, locks ... also bbls and brass for the cartridge guns.

Anything and everything that's screwed into a black powder firearm's bbl will make those screw threads seem like they're welded after a number of firings, and will be impossible to remove (breech plugs, touch hole vents, snails, bolsters, blow out vents, nipples, etc) unless the bbl is steamed. Therefore I remove at least the breech plug, for a coat of anti-seize grease.

Most folks don't understand black powder firearm maintenance and waste way too much time "cleaning" and wasting money on all manner of "cleaning" concoctions. As long as fired gun BP residue is timely administered, I can clean ANY black powder bbl in less that 15 minutes, typically 5 minutes and with 3 to 6 patches. All that's needed is tepid tap water and some water soluble oil (i.e. - Ballistol, etc). It's not rocket science, it's 18th century practice. :)
Thanks for the detailed guidance, really helpful. Emphasizing the lock, using anti-seize on breech plugs, and keeping black-powder residue soft are great takeaways. Congrats on the Pedersoli performing well. I'll follow the tepid-water plus Ballistol routine and timely maintenance to avoid stuck threads....much appreciated, truly.
 
I've seen a few of those Hopkins & Allen reproductions, they've got that classic frontier feel for sure and perfect for a collection if you like historic pieces. Are you thinking display or occasional shooting?
I'd buy one for display and occasional firing
 
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